hello everyone, im in a bit of a dilema here, ive been dating a girl who is studying with the jws, not babtized yet, but wants to just as soon as she is ready to fully dedicate herself.
anyhow ive tried reasoning with here concerning scripture only to have her say that she doesnt really now but will ask someone (elder).
so in an attempt to discredit the wtbs i purchased some materials from watchmen on the false dates and doctrine reversals.
after rereading what I posted, I meant to say, "Second hand" stores. Not second hand book stores. Book stores wont touch witness mass produced books unless its really old and interesting looking. Your local salvation army store or other thrift stores will have at least one copy of You Can Live Forerver in Paradise On Earth on the shelf.
W.Once
i've had good and bad days since stumbing onto jwd... and i've learned more in my short time here than in the last 20 years as an "active" and true to the bone...dub.... but today (tonight) i'm really sad... the tone of almost every thread i read has gotten "ugly".... i love "spirited" discussion, but this is different.
it feels like forum anarchy.. is there no yielding anymore...?.
maybe it was just too much happened today... or solar flares or something... i don't know...don't care.... maybe my new found "love" for my country (not the blind patriotic crap) and life coupled with the obvious animosity toward this love by some...well just bums me out.
U/D,
I always look for that monkey with the George Burns glasses on, it cracks me up!
Your signature sign off, (of the ____________class.) is one of the best things on this board. I want so bad to copy it but know its your baby.
Can I do it just once, can I, can I?
If you're happy and you know it clamp your hams.
W.Once
so, here's the skinny:.
i haven't been to a meeting in over two years.
i haven't been in service since i can't remember when.
Insomniac,
If you haven't been associated with the congregation for some time and are not known publicly as one of Jehovah's Witnesses the elders are advised to leave you alone. Only if you are claiming to be a witness and "bringing reproach on Jehovah's name" are they encouraged to try to contact you. Many elders go on a crusade to hunt down people in your position. You probably wont hear from them again. If you do, then I agree, be amazed at how little impact it will have on your business and life considering its already the past for you.
Send them a .666% off coupon for a carton of ciggarettes.
Ewwwwww.
W.Once
i've been on a mini vacation and lately i've seen mostly "newbies" posting.
this place changes sooo quickly, it's amazing!!!
i'm glad to see the "great crowd's" influx here.
I don't think a sincere witness could last reading what's written here. Only those on thier way out; or out, could enjoy this forum. Therefore I agree that most are like me, tired of the "holy than all living things" BS. Free at last, free at last, great god almighty, free at last!
W.Once
i have toyed around with the idea of finding fellow df'd ones for about a year now.
i recently got married, and of course it has made me look at how it feels like i gave up one life for another.
the only member of my family who is a jw is my mother- and it kills me that we pretty much no longer have a relationship.
Welcome.
Yippee!
Stay in touch.
W.Once
more blessings from the gilead instructors.... "it was brought out that christendom and the world smacks of .
baalism today.
sad to say, like the israelites sometimes even jehovah's .
Sadly many of the R&F are lame enough to see the content of that email as a VERY SPIRITUAL viewpoint to be aspired to. They want to be as spiritual as the Bethelites!
I think I'm gonna be sick.
Never give up, never surrender!
W.Once
hello everyone, im in a bit of a dilema here, ive been dating a girl who is studying with the jws, not babtized yet, but wants to just as soon as she is ready to fully dedicate herself.
anyhow ive tried reasoning with here concerning scripture only to have her say that she doesnt really now but will ask someone (elder).
so in an attempt to discredit the wtbs i purchased some materials from watchmen on the false dates and doctrine reversals.
datingajwgirl,
(Have her compare that to the Nov. 1st 1995 Watchtower study article; "Saved from a wicked generation".) That bound volume is in the KH library and she can borrow it from her teacher.
oops Never give up, never surrender! W.Once
hello everyone, im in a bit of a dilema here, ive been dating a girl who is studying with the jws, not babtized yet, but wants to just as soon as she is ready to fully dedicate herself.
anyhow ive tried reasoning with here concerning scripture only to have her say that she doesnt really now but will ask someone (elder).
so in an attempt to discredit the wtbs i purchased some materials from watchmen on the false dates and doctrine reversals.
datingajwgirl,
The answer is complicated but you can keep it simple. You can do two things.
1. Go with her to the kingdom hall and tell people you are her boyfriend. You can do this by not stating you are her boyfriend, just sit with her and they will assume this. Sitting next to an unbeliever of the opposite gender is proof you're having sex in witness eyes!
This puts the elders on notice she is not complying with the rules. May slow down the baptism thing. (Risk is she may comply and drop you, or say "Hey, let's get married.")
or try this:
2. Go to a few second hand book stores and look for a copy of the book, "You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth". It has a red cover and on the last page of chapter 18 you will find an illustration of a calander with the year 1914 on it, next to it is a series showing a boy growing to manhood and old age. The caption next to it is 'ARMAGEDDON some of the generation living in 1914 will see the end of the system of things and survive it." This is indicating that the last days end within the generation of 1914. Its very blatant and right there in print. Anyone can find this book in a second hand store. I see them all the time. This book only went out of print around 1995 when the Knowledge book came into vouge. (Have her compare that to the Nov. 1st Watchtower study article; "Saved from a wicked generation".)
Just ask her, "What does this mean?" Let the ball roll from there. They will have to explain to her that they dont beleive that anymore.
You may find that ultimately she isn't the girl for you. Hope she can be awakened from her trance by a gentle kiss from her prince charming.
Good luck.
W.Once
hey everyone,
thanks for all your welcomes on that last post.
here is my story in entirety, i put both parts together for those who may not have read the first part.
Good advice jula71.
As long as you're in thier house you are under scrutiny that you have invited. I'm sure you have financial constraints or you wouldn't be there. These may be good reasons for working hours that interfere with your meeting attendance etc. You know Jehovah says to pay your bills, you don't want to bring reproach on his name by being a slacker. So, work. Find a job that will help you pay your bills, (I assume they exist for you as they do for all recent grads, i.e., loans, credit card debts etc.) Then just get on your own and don't worry about thier opinions once you've established your life. Fade the JW's and stay in contact with your folks. If you're not going to DA then just fade and be noncommittal with thema about it. No obligation to fess up on anything to them. It's up to you.
Never give up, Never surrender!
W.Once
more blessings from the gilead instructors.... "it was brought out that christendom and the world smacks of .
baalism today.
sad to say, like the israelites sometimes even jehovah's .
They dont want the deep things of The Truth because once you get them down they change them on you! Better to go camping and roast marshmallows with the fam.
W.Once
